Forum: EasyBoot
Topic: Multiboot with Paragom Partition manager 10
started by: EB1000
Posted by EB1000 on Nov. 27 2009,13:16
Hello

I tried this tutorial:

< http://www.ezbsystems.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=SF;f=1 >

but it doesn't work for ver 10

any ideas?

here are the files found inside the iso

Thanks
Posted by balder on Nov. 27 2009,17:52
@EB1000

Hi EB1000

Do it this way:

1. Create folder iso in easyboot\disk1
2. Copy paragon created rescue iso-file to easyboot\disk1\iso (you can as option open folder paragon and find folder iso. Inside folder iso you have in normal case a “rescue CD” – normally named “bootcd.iso”
3. Rename rescue.iso to paragon.iso  (use lower case to name)
4. Download zip-file from < HERE >
5. Extract floppy image from zip-file to folder ezboot
6. Use menu command in easyboot as usual: run paragon.ima
7. When creating ISO in easyboot check “Allow lower case” <-- very important!
Please read how to avoid problems when using “Allow lower case” Read post-65 < HERE >

In case you do run uppercase to all files and folders inside folder disk1 in easyboot you need to download paragon2.zip from < HERE >  (this floppy image is manipulated to launch ISO-file that have name in uppercase format).

Note: This is a grub floppy images and text file menu.lst inside this kind of floppy are case sensitive (if used on CD/DVD) thats why you may need this second one.

Balder
Posted by EB1000 on Nov. 27 2009,20:58
Thank you balder for the reply. I followed your instructions, but when I try to boot for Paragon' I only end up starting the grub4dos command prompt' but Paragon wont boot. Here is the screen I get when selecting Paragon from multiboot menu:

On this multiboot I have: Windows xp sp3 setup, Acronis True Image 2010, and Hiren's boot cd 10. All work fine except Paragon.

Here are the commands:

Hiren:
bcdw /hbcd/isolinux.bin
Acronis:
bootinfotable;run acronis.bif
Win XP:
run xpboot.bin

and Paragon that wont work:

run paragon.IMA

(floppy image has same name/case)


Am I missing something?

Thanks
Posted by balder on Nov. 28 2009,04:06
@EB1000

Quote:” Am I missing something?” Well yes and no

Attached Image shows that floppy image (with grub) is launched all right-  but grub boot manager cannot find path to file.

Did you check “Allow lower case” when creating ISO in EasyBoot?
Did you run uppercase to folder and file names in EasyBoot\disk1?
If you run uppercase – did you use Paragon2.ima to launch paragon iso-file?

If done above, continue with open floppy image paragon2.ima and extract text file menu.lst (I use UltraIso for this procedure). Use notepad to open menu.lst (it’s a plain text file).

There are load commands in this text file related to grub boot manager – and as we are using grub on a CD/DVD-file system, its hereby case sensitive (grub is not case sensitive if used on FAT, FAT32 or NTFS).

Take a look at the root of EasyBoot (folder disk1). Names to files and folders should now be uppercase (everywhere). Secondly you should have a folder ISO and in folder ISO PARAGON.ISO (at least first letter must be seen as uppercase) because if WinXP can be used you must already have run uppercase to files and folders in folder disk1

This is how text file menu.lst looks like when using uppercase:

timeout 0

find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ISO/PARAGON.ISO
map /ISO/PARAGON.ISO (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)
boot

To make sure path in folder disk1 is correct (corresponding to path in menu.lst) rewrite names in EasyBoot\disk1 exactly as they are written in menu.lst.
As you can see: This is the path to paragon.iso-file = /ISO/PARAGON.ISO
Note: when writing uppercase in windows to files and folders, normally only first letter is seen as uppercase and the following looks to be lowercase (even you did write uppercase to the whole bunch).

Or download paragon.zip and use this to launch paragon.iso (this image has lower case in menu.lst to all path) and then change name to folder iso to lowercase and the same to paragon.iso inside folder ISO. It’s only a question about case sensitivity – no big deal :;):

balder
Posted by EB1000 on Nov. 28 2009,14:16
Thanks!

You were right, the ISO folder was uppercased. Works great now. BTW, what are the limitations to booting using ISO's with this method (run xx.IMA with altered MENU file)? I tried it for Acronis True Image 2010 and it worked, but for Windows XP, it did bring up the boot setup, but when setup started to copy files, after formatting the destination drive, a BSOD appeared... Can XPCD.ISO be loaded with Grub4dos? Perhaps, with modified MENU.LST parameters?

Is there a tutorial for configuring the MENU.LST parameters?

Thanks again
Posted by balder on Nov. 28 2009,15:14
@EB1000

Quote:” BTW, what are the limitations to booting using ISO's with this method”
Well of course there are limitations, but surprisingly - a lot of ISO-files can be launched this way (including EasyBoot itself from USB – you can read how on my web pages – scroll down and find “Welcome to my website here”).

However “there is no such thing as a free lunch”. You cannot launch setup of the “WinXP family” this way. You cannot launch BartPE (using folder i386-approach) – but launch BartPE or LiveXP using “RAM-approach” (run from RAM) works fine - the same for ERD60\65 (vista-based). And a bunch of Linux\Isolinux can be launched (mostly) this way. He, he there seems to bee some of those  “free lunches” out there :;):

Quote:” XPCD.ISO be loaded with Grub4dos?” No it cannot – no “free lunch” there :(

Point with this arrangement (using floppy with grub boot manager) is that it heavily increases EasyBoot capabilities to directly launching ISO-files :p

Links of interest < HERE >

Quote:"Is there a tutorial for configuring the MENU.LST parameters?" Yes < HERE >

regards balder

Posted by EB1000 on Nov. 29 2009,02:50
Thank's a lot !!!
Posted by looknguide on Feb. 22 2010,00:59
hello
I did every thing that mention above but still i got error that attached image file say (above on). my paragon.iso file is in lowercase i made iso folder in disk1 and put this file there. i have copy paragon.ima file to ezboot forlder that is also in lowercase and then i put this command in easy boot menu: run paragon.ima but it still not work. it show grub> each time. i also goit gost 15 cd n that i wanted to run from my easyboot cd. i am using paragon partition manager pro 9. need guideline.
thanks
Posted by balder on Feb. 22 2010,03:55
@looknguide

@looknguide please scroll down to ” Welcome to my website here” and use script “EasyBoot-ISO.script. This script does everything automatically for you :;):  

Please read help on web site and also push help button in each script you use.

balder
Posted by stenyosullivan on Aug. 18 2010,10:29
link not work :(

< http://web.telia.com/~u75404714/paragon.zip >

fix the link please :)
Posted by balder on Aug. 18 2010,10:46
@stenyosullivan

As this seems to be your first post in this forum – I say welcome :)

Quote: “link not work”
Yes you are correct - this web hotel isn’t active anymore :(

However - you can instead use my script: easyboot-iso.script to integrate this Paragon-iso :;):
Download scripts below :cool:
Please take a look in READ_ME.html before you start to use scripts :O
Put folder WinBuilder_complete to the root (C:\) and do not have (or use) space in name to ISO and no space in folder name where you keep ISO-files – use a folder on the root as repository for ISO-files

balder

Posted by stenyosullivan on Aug. 19 2010,13:19
tanks, work !!!