Forum: EasyBoot
Topic: 2 Different Versions of a system
started by: SpecialTrooper
Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 17 2010,15:38
Hey, I was just experimeting, creating my own life cd. Now on my cd i want to different versions of a programm (for exmaple ophcrack xp and ophcrack vista). The only way I get my. .iso s to work is by extracting their content into the disc 1 folder and copy there bootinformation in the ezboot folder.
However, when I try to extract the content of ophcrack vista it asks me if i want to overwrite files (because i already extracted the content of ophcrack xp). Is there a way to have two different versions of a tool? For example, could I just create seperate folders in the disc 1 folder and put each cd in a seperate folder. If so, where does the boot information ahve to go and what command do I use to properly run it. And do I have to edit anything and if so, how? Sry about all those questions but i am new here so I don't really know a lot about easyboot and all the commands yet. Thank you for your answer!!!
Posted by Jesica on Jun. 18 2010,00:37
Hello,
This is really a nice question and I must say that it is an experiment with the booting features of the system. What I can say is, when we store the booting information of one window in a CD, the boot loader extracts it automatically at booting time. But if we have two different versions of windows, then the system will not boot from disk or it may show an error message at the time of burning the disk. When I tried this it was showing an error message. Please tell me your experience.
Thanks
Jesica
< http://www.keylogger.in >
Posted by balder on Jun. 18 2010,04:50
@SpecialTrooper

As this looks to be your first post in this forum – I say welcome :)

Quote: “For example, could I just create separate folders in the disc 1 folder and put each cd in a separate folder”
No you cannot :O
Most software must be launched from “ROOT” (folder disk1 is the “root “ for easyboot – in case you wonder).

I have finally downloaded ophcrack-xp-livecd-2.3.1.iso and ophcrack-vista-livecd-2.3.1.iso and I have managed to setup and launch this from USB device (USB-stick).

This is what I did:

1. Create a temporary folder with the name ophcrack-temp on C:
2. Open ophcrack-xp-livecd-2.3.1.iso (I used Ultra-ISO) and deleted folder “TABLES”
3. I saved (“save As”) ISO with name ophcrack-XP to folder ophcrack-temp
4. I launched my script easyboot-iso.script and used name in text-box: OPCRACKXP (pointed to ophcrack-XP.iso in folder ophcrack-temp)
5. I did the same procedur with ophcrack-vista-livecd-2.3.1.iso (used name OPCRACKVISTA)
6. I created also menu(s) (used run command suggested by script) for above two ISO-files
7. I then moved the whole folder iso from EasyBoot\disk1 to folder ophcrack-temp
8. I then created ISO as usual in EasyBoot
9. I launched easyboo-usb.script and used ISO created by easyboot
10. I copied ISO-file “OPCRACKXP” and “OPCRACKVISTA” from inside of folder ophcrack-temp\iso to inside of folder iso on USB device
11. I copied (extracted) folder “TABLES” from original ophcrack-xp-livecd-2.3.1.iso to the root of USB device.
12. And finally I opened folder “TABLES” in original ophcrack-vista-livecd-2.3.1.iso and copied folder “vista_free” to inside folder “TABLES” on USB device.


For DVD-solution test this:
1. Do 1 to 6 from above tutorial
2. Do as in 11 but copy (extract) folder “TABLES” to EasyBoot\disk1 and the same as in 12 but copy to EasyBoot\disk1\tables
3. Create ISO

Note: You can most likely not test this in “Virtual PC” – instead use this freeware < HERE >
Note: you don’t need to create “Hard disk image” when asked.

And where can you find this “scripts” that I’m talking about?
Look below :cool:

balder

Posted by balder on Jun. 18 2010,04:50
@Jesica

As it seems that you are a new member of this forum – I say welcome :)

Quote: “When I tried this it was showing an error message”
Hmmm… I’m unsure what you referring too

Is it ophcrack or is it this < http://www.keylogger.in > ???

balder
Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 18 2010,13:16
Hey, thanks for all the answers. Acutally I have a virtual computer (Virtual Box, it's a very cool freeware alternative to virtual pc). I already had a little success and created my first boot cd with parted magic, offline nt password & registry editor, and ERD Commander 2007.
While I extracted ERD Commander and Parted Magic in the disk1 folder and run them over run erd.bif and bootinfotable;run pm.bif I somehow managed to get the .iso image of Offline
NT Password & Registry Editor in an .ima image by using utlra iso and create a new floppy image with size 5.76mb and Boot Sector isolinux (which I just run by using run nt.ima).

I wanted to add PC Login Now, however, when i tried that (by extracting it and running it over the .bif file)  my parted magic didn't work anymore.

I just wonder why how I can convert the other .iso images to ima
I alreadi tried to convert my images to .bin images but everytime i do that i get a .bin and a .cue file and when i try to run the .bin file directly i just get a black screen with a white _

And what is that hexediting that everybody is talkling about? What programm do i use to do that and what files do i edit?

Thank you for your answers!!!
Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 18 2010,14:03
Ok, just tried out balder's script and it works AWESOME!!!
Balder, you really are my hero ;) Now everything I wanted to do works :)
Thx a lot!!! Great Work!!!
Now all I have to do is get it to run from my Flash Drive...
Any suggestions?

Posted by balder on Jun. 18 2010,14:28
@SpecialTrooper

Quote: “And what is that hexediting that everybody is talkling about?”

I’m not sure what hex edit you are referring to ???

However…
I’m pretty sure that my script easyboot-iso.script can directly launch ISO-file “offline nt password & registry editor” (download ISO-file not image).
And I’m 100% sure that ERD Commander 2007-ISO-file can be launched directly by easyboot-iso.script :laugh:
You don’t need to extract anything – use ISO-files as the are.
Note: when integrating erd-2007 you should check “Run from RAM” in script :;):

balder
Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 18 2010,15:00
hey, unfortunately i only thought everything worked. In my virtual box i get in the easy boot menu but when i start ERD Commander it loads and than I get a blue screen, when I start (the blue screen is in the virtual box, not my computer)

When I run parted magic it says it can't find pmagic-4.11.sqfs

And when I tried to burn it on cd and run it on a other laptop it said
CODE
GRUB4DOS 0.4.4 2009-10-16, Memory: 646K / 253M, MenuEnd: 0x48D27 [Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible completions of a device/filename. ]

grub>
evertime i selected one of my choices

what do i do wrong?

Posted by balder on Jun. 18 2010,16:27
@SpecialTrooper

Quote: “what do i do wrong?”

Question is rather – what method did you use ???
Because at this point I don’t know if you used method in post nr:5 or my suggestions in post nr:7
Please clarify what method you used :O

I’m 100% sure that ERD Commander 2007-ISO-file can be launched directly by easyboot-iso.script :cool:
Note: when integrating erd-2007 you should check “Run from RAM” in script
Parted-magic needs most likely some special treatment :(

balder
Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 18 2010,22:25
I used your script to "convert" all 4 (Pated Magic, ERD Commander, PC Login Now and Offline NT PW&R Editor) into a img.gz+.iso file and use the memdisk to run them.
I used easyboot-iso script.
Posted by balder on Jun. 19 2010,08:13
@SpecialTrooper

Quote: “I used easyboot-iso script”

I’m 100% sure that ERD Commander 2007-ISO-file can be launched directly by easyboot-iso.script. Make sure you allocate enough with RAM when testing ERD-7 – as it is run from RAM :O
Note: when integrating erd-2007 you should check “Run from RAM” in script

For “offline nt password & registry editor” - don’t check “Run from RAM” in script when integrating “offline nt password & registry editor”.

Parted-magic needs special treatment :;):  
Pmagic is sensitive to name and also to path.
As a work-around - do as follows:
1. Download special “kicker-image” (PMAGIC-4.11.img.gz) from < HERE >
2. Copy downloaded PMAGIC-4.11.img.gz to folder ezboot
3. Create menu is EasyBoot and use menu command:  memdisk PMAGIC-4.11.img.gz
4. Copy parted-magic.iso-file to easyboot\disk1
5. Rename parted-magic.iso-file to exactly PMAGIC-4.11.ISO (Use CAPS as showed)
6. Create ISO as usual in EasyBoot.
Note: Take attention to that when testing PMAGIC in “Virtual environment” – PMAGIC is extremely sloooow….
I tested from USB device successfully :)
Note: To launch parted-magic from USB you need to do some special arrangements

balder
Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 19 2010,12:08
When I try to run ERD Commander through the iso script I recieve the error message
CODE
FileRename - Failed to rename file: [D:\boot cds\Winternals ERD Commander 2007 (ISO).iso.gz] to:[ERD.ISO.GZ]


Why is that?

P.s. I checked "run iso from ram"
Posted by balder on Jun. 19 2010,12:29
@SpecialTrooper

Quote: “I recieve the error message”

It’s because that you have spaces in path (D:\boot cds) and unfortunately also in name for source-file: ”Winternals ERD Commander 2007” :O

Please remove spaces in path and in ISO-filename to something like this: D:\boot_cds\Winternals_ERD_Commander_2007.ISO :cool:

balder

Posted by SpecialTrooper on Jun. 20 2010,06:46
Hey everyone,
I ran the iso-script again and this time it worked.
I tried to start it and while ERD Commander is loading I recieve an error message from my virtual box "low host memory". This could be because I am only using a netbook with 1024MB RAM (I give upto 700 mb to my virtual system). However, when I am booting from the original ERD Commander image I don't receive any error. Any ideas?
Posted by balder on Jun. 20 2010,07:05
@SpecialTrooper

Quote: ” when I am booting from the original ERD Commander image I don't receive any error”

When run original ERD Commander, you don’t run it from RAM :O
This problem of yours is most likely related to your “Virtual test system” and not to how script integrate ISO-file.
Please download and test this freeware from :;):  < HERE >

Note: When asked - you don’t need to create “Hard Disk Image”.

balder
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