Forum: EasyBoot
Topic: Ophcrack  problem and other
started by: Gianfry
Posted by Gianfry on Oct. 13 2010,03:11
Hi to everybody
I am a new member.
I greet and I thank all the participants.  I warmingly thank particularly the magic Balder.
I have realized my Multiboot DVD:

1) Acronis True Image 10 (method BCDW < HERE >, post N° 4) it works
2) Barte PE  (method Balder EasyBoot-LIVE.script)  it works
3) Hiren's BootCD 11.1 (method Balder EasyBoot-ISO.script + Button Hiren's)  it works
4) Partition Wizard Home Ed. V5.0 (method Balder EasyBoot-ISO.script)  it works
5) Paragon Drive Backup v9.0 Prof (EasyBoot-ISO.script)  it works
6) Paragon Total Defrag 2010 (EasyBoot-ISO.script)  it works
7) Ultimate Boot CD V5.0.3 (EasyBoot-ISO.script)  it not works
8) Ophcrack (EasyBoot-ISO.script)  it not works

Problem:
1) Hiren's need to check "Allow lower case". This is in conflict with the ISO in which it is not in demand. how to resolve?
2) Ophcrack doesn't work with any method . An error appears as already signalled at post number 3 of the following topic < HERE >.
3) Ultimate Boot CD works on VirtualPc ma not on VirtualBox and on real machine.

Can someone help me?
Thanks
Posted by balder on Oct. 13 2010,06:14
@Gianfry

As you are a new member I say welcome :)

Quote: “Ophcrack (EasyBoot-ISO.script) it not works”

Test this (Attention! Starting with XP-version of Opcrack.ISO):

1. Copy downloaded Opcrack.ISO to already created folder ISO in EasyBoot\disk1
2. Rename Opcrack.ISO to exactly OPCRACK-XP.ISO  (Note: use CAPS to name= BIG LETTERS)
3. Open OPCRACK-XP.ISO (I use UltraIso) and extract folder “tables” to EasyBoot\disk1
4. Delete folder “tables” in ISO-file (we don’t need this folder there anymore) – save reduced ISO (replacing OPCRACK-XP.ISO)
5. Download “grub-kicker-image” from < HERE >
6. Put file Opcrack_xp.zip in folder ezboot and use menu command:  memdisk Opcrack_xp.zip
7. You can now check “Allow lower case” and check “Joliet” without problems.

Note: I use US-keyboard in file “menu.lst” inside “kicker-image” – this can be modified if needed  

Do the same procedure to VISTA-version of Opcrack.ISO – but use the name OPCRACK-VISTA.ISO to that ISO-file and download suitable “kicker-image” (Opcrack_vista.zip) from < HERE >

Another important note: Test didn’t work in Microsoft “Virtual PC” it failed (It’s quite common problem when launching linux applications in Microsoft Virtual PC).
However in Qemu it works fine.
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Quote: “Hiren's need to check "Allow lower case".”
Well – Yes and No ???
You can use the “bcdw”-command as well to Hiren
Note: I have recently updated script-collection – you are advised to do a new download and in easyboot-iso.script check “Use bcdw-command” when integrating Hiren.
In this way you can avoid the “Allow lower case”-problem (if this really is a problem)
Okay – I know – you might loose some directly reachable option in menu – but you can find them inside hiren-menu (at least as far as I know).
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The Ultimate Boot CD V5.0.3 case. Not sure it can be solved ???  – can take some time….
I have some “personal” issues to deal with for the moment :cool:  – have patience

EDIT: The Ultimate Boot CD V5.0.3 case

Test this:
1. Extract from UBCD.iso-file folder “Antivir”, “Pmagic”, “boot” and finally folder “Ubcd” to EasyBoot\disk1
2. Extract boot-file from UBCD.iso-file and save as ubcd.bif to folder ezboot (I used UltraIso for this operation).
3. Use menu command in Easyboot:     Bootinfotable;run ubcd.bif
4. Check “Allow lower case” and check “Joliet” when creating ISO

Note: If you need to - by some reason - run easyboot-iso.script after above - please check “Do not run uppercase to file and folder names” in script as this is not healthy to names used in folders that belongs to the UBCD-build.
Or to be on the safe side - integrate UBCD as the last operation!

He, he… :;):  no guaranties


balder

Posted by Gianfry on Oct. 13 2010,08:43
QUOTE
Test this (Attention! Starting with XP-version of Opcrack.ISO):

1. Copy downloaded Opcrack.ISO to already created folder ISO in EasyBoot\disk1
2. Rename Opcrack.ISO to exactly OPCRACK-XP.ISO  (Note: use CAPS to name= BIG LETTERS)
3. Download “grub-kicker-image” from HERE
4. Put file Opcrack_xp.zip in folder ezboot and use menu command:  memdisk Opcrack_xp.zip
5. You can now check “Allow lower case” and check “Joliet” without problems.


Thanks Balder for your fast answer. :;):

I have attentively performed your instructions.
But during the test, best man the following error in attachment::
Posted by balder on Oct. 13 2010,09:48
@Gianfry

Quote: ”But during the test, best man the following error in attachment”

Error you get indicate that grub kicker-image is unable to find its target :O
Please check that names to opcrack.iso-file for opcrack-XP.iso is exactly OPCRACK-XP.ISO and make sure you used “Opcrack_xp.zip” in folder ezboot.
And finally check that you put OPCRACK-XP.ISO in folder ISO in easyboot\disk1

It seems that path-name isn’t right (name to ISO-file is wrong).
Take attention to that grub (used in kicker-image) is 100% case sensitive used on CD/DVD and in floppy-images - but not case sensitive when used on disk-units (including USB-units).

Note: I tested my tutorial for a couple of minutes ago and everything went well – but as told – be careful about the case sensitive to letters and test again.
I’m 100% sure it works :;):

Regards balder
Posted by Gianfry on Oct. 13 2010,13:20
@Balder

Excuse me Balder
I have checked, it seems that everything is as you have indicate.
I report my complete path case sensitive:

D:\EasyBoot\EasyBoot.exe
D:\EasyBoot\disk1\EZBOOT\Opcrack_xp.zip
D:\EasyBoot\disk1\ISO\OPCRACK-XP.ISO

command Easyboot is  memdisk Opcrack_xp.zip

Unfortunately the dvd doesn't work :(
To this point I don't know what the problem is.
I add other information:

My system is windows xp pro service pack 3

Regards Gianfry
Posted by balder on Oct. 13 2010,14:47
@Gianfry

Quote: ”Unfortunately the dvd doesn't work”
As I'm curious :;):  I have to ask - does it work from Qemu?

Anyway – your inputs seems to be 100% right.
And using windows xp pro service pack 3 is even better – good choice :D

However – that DVD…
Note: I do not have time to burn (or can use any DVD-RW) to test with, so instead I used an USB stick (2GB) and used easyboot-grub-iso.script to transfer the build to this USB stick.
Booted computer>>made changes in BIOS (boot from USB device)>>launched EasyBoot>>launched OPCRACK from EasyBoot menu>> voila it worked fine.
OPCRACK was up and ready in less than 30 seconds – very impressing :laugh:

So this build certainly must work – but why not from your DVD – I have no clue ???
Problems with large DVD,s is not any “hot news” - in fact it's well known - Read post nr; 2 and 3 and 4 < HERE >

EDIT!
Tested burning an ISO created by Easyboot (used CD-RW)
OPCRACK launched without hesitating – so I guess there must be something with how your DVD is burned or something (or is to big in size).
Note: Big builds create big problems – that’s life :(


regards balder

Posted by Gianfry on Oct. 13 2010,17:47
@Balder

I have resolved and I have found the problem. :p
I have resolved loading new version of Ophcrack (ophcrack LiveCD 2.3.1)
Before I used the version ophcrack LiveCD 2.1.0 (I am stupid):angry:

With the new version a new problem has appeared.
The "launch.sh"  was not able of relieve the folder "tables"
I have resolved extracting the folder with UntraISO at the root of easyboot "D:\EasyBoot\disk1\tables"
Final solution:
1) Downloading new version (ophcrack LiveCD 2.3.1) never use the old version.
2) Using metod  Balder EasyBoot-ISO.script (not checked iso from ram).
3) Use menu command:  memdisk Opcrack_xp.zip or Opcrack_xp.img
4) With ultraIso copy the folder tables to the root (in my root is "D:\EasyBoot\disk1\tables"
it works :laugh:

Thanks Balder
Posted by balder on Oct. 13 2010,23:45
@Gianfry

Quote: ”The "launch.sh"  was not able of relieve the folder "tables"”

You are right – I forgot to mention this important part of this OPCRACK-solution :O
Thanks to you :;):  I have changed parts of tutorial in post nr; 2

But you still need the “kicker-images” of course – I’ll keep them downloadable from Mediafire for other uses :cool:

Regards balder
Posted by Gianfry on Oct. 14 2010,03:35
@everybody

Another problem still exists.  :( This however it is due to Ophcrack

The script "Launch.sh" starts Ophcrack with parameters (you see attached image), for which the window of Ophcrack is closed not as soon as the passwords have been found.
The passwords are saved in the path /tmp/ophcrack.txt.  But this fails, because the path cannot be written in iso .
All this makes difficult to read the passwords.
It is necessary to modify the script "Launch.sh". Does someone know how to do this?


Regards Gianfry
Posted by Gianfry on Oct. 14 2010,04:20
@Balder

(balder @ Oct. 13 2010,19:47)
QUOTE
@Gianfry

However – that DVD…
Note: I do not have time to burn (or can use any DVD-RW) to test with, so instead I used an USB stick (2GB) and used easyboot-grub-iso.script to transfer the build to this USB stick.

Ophcrack (in DVD) following your instructions of the post number 2, it works!  :)  :)
If I create from the file ISO a stick-USB  with USB-script, it doesn't work. :(
Besides also BartPE doesn't work in USB, after the boot it crash to 1/3 some procedure :(

Regards Gianfry
Posted by balder on Oct. 14 2010,06:21
@Gianfry

Quote: ” If I create from the file ISO a stick-USB  with USB-script, it doesn't work”
Hmm… What USB-script are you referring to  (you are recommended to use easyboot-grub-iso.script for the USB-approach)”.
Note: easyboot-grub-iso.script is “heavy” :O  in the way that everything inside folder disk1 is copied to “WinBuilder_cmplete\ISO” script continue with creating a new EasyBoot-ISO-file followed by “injecting” this ISO to another grub-based ISO-file that hold the complete build.
This build can then be transferred to USB unit (recommended is to test on a USB Stick\Thumbdrive).
I’m currently working on a solution to avoid the need to copy all this files to folder “WinBuilder_complete\ISO” to make script run much faster – but not sure I can solve this nut ???

I tested OPCRACK from USB stick – and it launched and works okay as far as I can see :)
I didn’t experience the same problem as when I run OPCRACK from CD-unit – that didn’t work that well – as you pointed out.
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Quote: ”Besides also BartPE doesn't work in USB, after the boot it crash to 1/3 some procedure”
Hmm… This can – or most likely  is - related to some driver that isn’t loaded in the right way, as BartPE is run from RAM. However I must point out that this is not a common problem - in normal case NT55-Live-systems work fine from RAM (BartPE,Reatogo, ERD5 etcetera...)
Note: Make sure you also have at least twice as much of RAM as the extracted BartPE-ISO-file is in size.

Regards balder