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Astraa 
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Posted on: Oct. 30 2009,17:56 |
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Hello all
After a lot of reading of the forums, and finding topics I thought would answer questions, Im stuck.
From what I understand Win7 and Vista can be on the same dvd, but I can not for the life of me get mine to work, every iso I have made loads Xp up from boot, no menu to be seen.
Also some topics go into numerating (not sure on word) the vista structure, again this has me at a loose end, one which I cant close.
I am sure there are user on this forum who have or know how to make the thing work
I am striving to make.
Win 7 + Vista + XP-SP3+Hirends
But enve when I copy the whole of hirens and then XP to the "disk1" I get a conflict because of the setupldr, are we supposed to make directorys under the disk1?
as in
Disk1----
Vista
Win7
Hirens
XP-Pro
I would be nice to get some asnwers that are easy to follow and bat files or pics to follow as in Monkey see monkey do
Regards To all
And a great forum
Astraa
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balder
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Posted on: Oct. 31 2009,03:53 |
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@ Astraa
Welcome to this forum Astraa 
Here is answer to 3 of 4 in your requests 
Solution to vista:
1. Copy all the contents of your DVD (or ISO file) to EasyBoot\disk1
2. Create menu in EasyBoot and use command: Â run vistaldr.bin (check that you have vistaldr.bin in folder EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot)
Solution to WinXP-sp3
1. Copy all contents of CD (or ISO file) to EasyBoot\disk1 Note: You basically only need to copy folder i386 and tag files (win51 etcetera) everything else is optional.
2. Create menu in EasyBoot and use command:  run W2ksect.bin  (check that you have W2ksect.bin in folder EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot). Note: to make it look a little bit more professional you can make a copy of W2ksect.bin and rename file to xp-sp3.bin and of course change run command to run xp-sp3.bin
Solution to hiren (I assume you are using hiren v9.9 or higher version. If using some “old” hiren like v9.6 you have to come back for a different load command) Note: this is described by madar in many topics around here.
1. Extract folder HBCD from hiren ISO file to EasyBoot\disk1
2. Create menu in EasyBoot and use command: Â bcdw /hbcd/isolinux.bin
Left is solution to win7. You have to do some “test and trial” to solve this   This topic might be to some help - read here
balder
Edited by balder on Nov. 04 2009,05:47
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madar
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Posted on: Oct. 31 2009,05:03 |
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Hi Dear Balder
1.Very nice and complate answer.
2.I wanted to appreciate from you for your exelent EasyBoot USB scripts.
you have made my works very easy.
Thanks a lot
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Astraa
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Posted on: Oct. 31 2009,15:35 |
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(balder @ Oct. 31 2009,08:53)
QUOTE @ Astraa Welcome to this forum Astraa Here is answer to 3 of 4 in your requests Solution to vista: 1. Copy all the contents of your CD (or ISO file) to EasyBoot\disk1 2. Create menu in EasyBoot and use command:  run vistaldr.bin (check that you have vistaldr.bin in folder EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot) Solution to WinXP-sp3 1. Copy all contents of CD (or ISO file) to EasyBoot\disk1 Note: You basically only need to copy folder i386 and tag files (win51 etcetera) everything else is optional. 2. Create menu in EasyBoot and use command:  run W2ksect.bin  (check that you have W2ksect.bin in folder EasyBoot\disk1\ezboot). Note: to make it look a little bit more professional you can make a copy of W2ksect.bin and rename file to xp-sp3.bin and of course change run command to run xp-sp3.bin Solution to hiren (I assume you are using hiren v9.9 or higher version. If using some “old” hiren like v9.6 you have to come back for a different load command) Note: this is described by madar in many topics around here. 1. Extract folder HBCD from hiren ISO file to EasyBoot\disk1 2. Create menu in EasyBoot and use command:  bcdw /hbcd/isolinux.bin Left is solution to win7. You have to do some “test and trial” to solve this  This topic might be to some help - read herebalder
Hi Balder
Firstly thank you very much for your fast reply.
Ok now to my questions
On the Hirens (Ver10) do I not need the other files out side of the HBCD, like the autorun.inf
[AutoRun]
icon=hbcd\wintools\autorun.exe
open=hbcd\wintools\autorun.exe
action=Hiren's BootCD
label=Hiren's BootCD
Shell\Option1=Hiren's BootCD
Shell\Option1\Command=hbcd\wintools\autorun.exe
or the  menu.lst
timeout 60
default 0
title Boot from Hard Drive
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader (hd0,0)+1
title --------------------
root
title Start Hiren's BootCD
find --set-root /HBCD/boot.gz
map --mem /HBCD/boot.gz (fd0)
map --hook
chainloader (fd0)+1
rootnoverify (fd0)
map --floppies=1
boot
title Mini Windows Xp
find --set-root /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
chainloader /HBCD/XPLOADER.BIN
As these seem to be the menu and loader infor for whats on the hirens cd.
And again the autorun.inf from the XP disk which has the same entry as that from the vista.
And the setup.exe from XP
As to Win7 im at a loss as how to do that one. Â But I will keep trying.
Or am I missing the point like a blow to the temple, are the listed file above not needed because they are allready in the ezboot dir?
I await your answer with egarness.
astraa
I have just done the DVD, and I used it on a Toshiba L300 the boot the menu come up fine, and it seems to work ok, until you select hirens, then I get an unexpected error, I changed over to anther PC, and that one worked fine. Im not sure why or what happend with the Laptop, but now it wont boot, its ina return cycle and will need a reinstall, not that im worried about that at all.
I was wondering if the Win7 thing would need this enum(ing) thing doing on it to allow V and W7 to coincide on the same dvd.
Regards
Astraa
Edited by Astraa on Oct. 31 2009,16:21
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balder
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Posted on: Oct. 31 2009,17:04 |
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@astraa
Quote; ” On the Hirens (Ver10) do I not need the other files out side of the HBCD, like the autorun.inf” No you do not need this file. AutoRun and the companion feature AutoPlay are components of the Microsoft Windows operating system that dictate what actions the system takes. You definitely do not start windows and then run easyboot. You boot and launch easyboot so no need (or use) for autorun.inf as we (and you) use hiren.
To launch hiren we use separate command:  bcdw /hbcd/isolinux.bin  this starts up hiren. So we do not have any use for autorun.inf. You can argument that a kind of “Autorun” is done by easyboot.
Note: you can easily edit options in hirens menu by open folder Hbcd\ isolinux.cfg (open with notepad) and edit text. You can change timeout or even delete one or several options etcetera as you which and save back file to folder Hbcd
About winxp: Sure you can put all folders and files from your winxp CD (or from winxp ISO file) to the root of easyboot (disk1). This is optional but not needed if starting setup from easyboot menu when computer boots. But if you are running from win2000 or win98 or winme then you need these files if upgrading to winxp. Who upgrades these days   In fact you can heavily reduce size of folder i386 if your intensions is to only do clean installs (no upgrades). This reduce can be done by a script (scroll down to “Welcome to my website” and find out your self).
By the way, you can only have one autorun.inf file on CD/DVD root so use this possibility in case you create some “autorun” menu used in windows environments.
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Astraa
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2009,01:49 |
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(balder @ Oct. 31 2009,22:04)
QUOTE @astraa Quote; ” On the Hirens (Ver10) do I not need the other files out side of the HBCD, like the autorun.inf” No you do not need this file. AutoRun and the companion feature AutoPlay are components of the Microsoft Windows operating system that dictate what actions the system takes. You definitely do not start windows and then run easyboot. You boot and launch easyboot so no need (or use) for autorun.inf as we (and you) use hiren. To launch hiren we use separate command:  bcdw /hbcd/isolinux.bin  this starts up hiren. So we do not have any use for autorun.inf. You can argument that a kind of “Autorun” is done by easyboot. Note: you can easily edit options in hirens menu by open folder Hbcd\ isolinux.cfg (open with notepad) and edit text. You can change timeout or even delete one or several options etcetera as you which and save back file to folder Hbcd About winxp: Sure you can put all folders and files from your winxp CD (or from winxp ISO file) to the root of easyboot (disk1). This is optional but not needed if starting setup from easyboot menu when computer boots. But if you are running from win2000 or win98 or winme then you need these files if upgrading to winxp. Who upgrades these days  In fact you can heavily reduce size of folder i386 if your intensions is to only do clean installs (no upgrades). This reduce can be done by a script (scroll down to “Welcome to my website” and find out your self). By the way, you can only have one autorun.inf file on CD/DVD root so use this possibility in case you create some “autorun” menu used in windows environments. Regards balder
Hello Balder
Thanks againf ro your reply
I hae made now over 50 dvd in iso format trying in vain to get win7 and vista to work.
I think im going to stop trying as it just seems to be out of my grasp to do it.
As to the rest.
Disk1
   boot
   efi
   ezboot
   HBCD
   I386 (xpro sp3)
   sources Â
   support  *
   upgrade  *
   autorun.inf (vista)
   bootmgr  (vista)
   setup.exe (vista)
   WIN51
   WIN51IP
   WIN51IP.SP2
   WIN51IP.SP3
Do I require the folder markd with "*" ?
And my last question for your expert mind.
To incooperate XP Home would involde Hex editing the bootlader and renameing the I386 Â Dir ?
I have seen some posts but not sure whick ones are one sthat work or ones that dont.
Regards
Astraa
P.S I have not given up on the 7 just I dont know how to just yet.
Edited by Astraa on Nov. 01 2009,01:50
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balder
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@Astraa
Quote: ” Do I require the folder marked with "*" ?” and “And my last question for your expert mind.”. To the first question I’m no 100%  sure but “upgrade  *” (related to vista) I guess must be on board. To the second opinion, I’m definitely not any expert (thanks anyway)   just a humble user (as you) of the fine software EasyBoot
It is a little bit strange that you can not get vista to launch – can’t se the problem  Â
Quote: “I have made now over 50 dvd” - I guess you test ISO in some sort of “virtual pc”  Take attention to the fact that sometimes it doesn’t work as expected in virtual test engines you use - then try a different one. Microsoft virtual pc or qemu or Wmvare as example.
Or use freeware MobaLiveCD. Download here
Note: I have a script that has built in test of ISO files (qemu). Script name is: EasyBoot-live script – read below “visit my webbpage” how to grab and use this EasyBoot-live script.
Quote: “To in cooperate XP Home would involve Hex editing the bootlader and renaming the I386  Dir ?” Yes this involves some hex editing. But I have designed a script that automatically does this for you – scroll down to “visit my webbpage” and download “startkit” followed by “More scripts with information how to handle winbuilder is located here” and then download EasyBoot-aio.zip-script.
Read carefully instructions (and press help button in script) and you have it
Note: If you decide to in cooperate XP Home together with WinXP-sp3 you can check “Optimize” when creating ISO. Not sure it reduces size of ISO build that much as files used in XP-sp3 are different to the ones used in Xphome but anyway worth to try out to see if ISO is reduced in size a little bit.
Regards balder
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Astraa
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2009,11:03 |
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(balder @ Nov. 01 2009,09:07)
QUOTE @Astraa Quote: ” Do I require the folder marked with "*" ?” and “And my last question for your expert mind.”. To the first question I’m no 100%  sure but “upgrade  *” (related to vista) I guess must be on board. To the second opinion, I’m definitely not any expert (thanks anyway)  just a humble user (as you) of the fine software EasyBoot It is a little bit strange that you can not get vista to launch – can’t se the problem  Quote: “I have made now over 50 dvd” - I guess you test ISO in some sort of “virtual pc”  Take attention to the fact that sometimes it doesn’t work as expected in virtual test engines you use - then try a different one. Microsoft virtual pc or qemu or Wmvare as example. Or use freeware MobaLiveCD. Download hereNote: I have a script that has built in test of ISO files (qemu). Script name is: EasyBoot-live script – read below “visit my webbpage” how to grab and use this EasyBoot-live script. Quote: “To in cooperate XP Home would involve Hex editing the bootlader and renaming the I386  Dir ?” Yes this involves some hex editing. But I have designed a script that automatically does this for you – scroll down to “visit my webbpage” and download “startkit” followed by “More scripts with information how to handle winbuilder is located here” and then download EasyBoot-aio.zip-script. Read carefully instructions (and press help button in script) and you have it Note: If you decide to in cooperate XP Home together with WinXP-sp3 you can check “Optimize” when creating ISO. Not sure it reduces size of ISO build that much as files used in XP-sp3 are different to the ones used in Xphome but anyway worth to try out to see if ISO is reduced in size a little bit. Regards balder
Hello Balder
Sorry but I think the Term "Expert fits" ... why? well because you know a hell a lot more than me, in your field so you are one to me.
Any hows
Microsoft virtual pc. Yes I do use it, and that has saved me at least 80% of real ISO´s to DVDs. So at least one good point.
Its Not Vista that wont start its "Win 7"
Starting Vista was not an issue, that worked fined.
As to the hexing, I will look right after this post at your link and DL to required files and get ma head round them.
Useint the “Optimize” I dont thinks goign to work as the SP3 is allready 4gig due to driver packs.
I must explain why. I work for a local IT group, I am not shy to installing LAN/WAN networks or how to runup and setup systems, and due to the plain fact 80% of our customers are XP based and will probably be so until they persish in the Dark ages, the time I have spent hunting for some obsucre driver, well lets just say I could have bought a house if the minutes were 0.01 p each. So to have a SP3 with the full drivers packs has proved to be a god send.
Ok So now over to you WS and to DL the files.
I will post my results.
Regards
Astraa
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balder
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Posted on: Nov. 01 2009,11:31 |
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@Astraa
Quote: ” Useint the “Optimize” I dont thinks goign to work as the SP3 is allready 4gig due to driver packs.” Whoooow  Hey that’s hell a lot of drivers. Note: if you use same drivers to WinXPhome it could save space – if not using same drivers - well then it’s as you points out nothing to win according to optimise and saving space 
Anyway quote: “Starting Vista was not an issue, that worked fined.” I like that part
Assembling vista and win-7 together can be a pain in the **  I must admit I never done it and reason is I don’t have or use win-7. I do have vista - I use it as hate object when I’m mad on something  So you are alone out there about that issue...
Quote: “80% of our customers are XP” That’s what I like to hear   - as said; vista can only be used as hate object in my world
Regards balder
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Astraa
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(balder @ Nov. 01 2009,16:31)
QUOTE @Astraa Quote: ” Useint the “Optimize” I dont thinks goign to work as the SP3 is allready 4gig due to driver packs.” Whoooow  Hey that’s hell a lot of drivers. Note: if you use same drivers to WinXPhome it could save space – if not using same drivers - well then it’s as you points out nothing to win according to optimise and saving space Anyway quote: “Starting Vista was not an issue, that worked fined.” I like that part Assembling vista and win-7 together can be a pain in the **  I must admit I never done it and reason is I don’t have or use win-7. I do have vista - I use it as hate object when I’m mad on something  So you are alone out there about that issue... Quote: “80% of our customers are XP” That’s what I like to hear  - as said; vista can only be used as hate object in my world Regards balder
Hello balder
LOLOLOL
Vista as Hate object, now thats a new one.
any way, as to 7 its a damm good upgrade to"V" that much I can tell you.
I uped from "V" ulitmate to 7 Ultimate, every thing works fine, its faster loading nad faster shutting down. All my progs work, even my gaming side works fine (BF2/AIX2) so no worries there.
I have downed the files from your site, one question I do have right off the bat, on your site it says extract here, but where is here ? is it in the ezboot dir or on its own tree?
Im afraid I dont run XP any more so it may lay there for the reason fro asking.
Regards
Astraa
P.S are you a sypke user or have TS would love to live chat if your able, much much faster than typo.
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